The Life After Leaving Podcast: An Ex-Christadelphian Podcast
A podcast by ex-Christadelphians for ex-Christadelphians. Together, we dive into the history of the Christadelphians, share stories of former members leaving the sect, and cultivate community among ex-members worldwide.
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Today we’re chatting with Bec! In this episode, Bec shares her experience growing up as a “Logos” Christadelphian in Australia and trying to follow the ‘straight and narrow’ path until she made the difficult decision to leave her marriage and embrace her identity as a lesbian! Bec shares some vulnerable stories of life inside the ecclesia. From trying to be a good daughter and getting baptized as her mom was dying, to learning about her mother’s hidden heartbreak which had become fodder for gossip at their ecclesia, and to growing up and meeting Christadelphian men who wanted to marry her… if they could control her. Despite some heavy topics, we also enjoyed a few laughs as we asked, what did Solomon’s wives really do together while he was busy? If Christadelphian brothers see rainbows and assume it’s a queer symbol then have they voluntarily given “God’s symbol” to the gay community? And does sage really work to get rid of ghosts in your house??
Please join us for yet another episode of fellowship among the heathens!
TW: Domestic violence, coercive rape, postpartum depression, suicidal ideation
Listener discretion advised.
If you’re interested in coming on the podcast or have comments or questions, you can contact Zinnia at lifeafterleavingpodcast@gmail.com
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References:
Underworld with Kate Beckinsale (2003)
Proverbs 3:15 “She is more precious than rubies; nothing you desire can compare with her.”
Forced Adoptions in Australia:
SBS News: “I was told my baby had died. Decades later, I learned that was a lie”
“Social worker tells of forced adoptions”
“Catholic Hospitals Apologize for Forced Adoptions”
From God to Gay Podcast
Will I ever be good enough by Dr. Karyl McBride
Joyce Meyer (Author)
Lee-Ann Cipri (Medium)
Sunday Dec 07, 2025
Sunday Dec 07, 2025
Today we’re learning about the history of hands-on energy healing in the early Christadelphian community! In this episode, Zinnia discusses the founding of an ecclesia in Edinburgh, Scotland that quickly became interested in practicing hands-on energy healing. These new believers were radical free thinkers who offered sassy -but scriptural- retorts to the demands of Robert Roberts and John Thomas around the validity of baptisms. They also hosted lectures and classes for anyone interested in learning the art of “curative mesmerism”. The Edinburgh ecclesia not only became practitioners of “curative mesmerism” themselves, but also became involved in creating and supporting a local mesmerism organization and promoted the practice as part of the “doctrine of health” to other ecclesias while attributing their healing abilities to God. We also discuss the attitudes that attracted these early believers to Mesmerism and the various theories around what may have contributed to the decline of the practice of mesmerism in this ecclesia. We also learn about Robert Roberts “irresistible” experience with another man, the reason why Robert’s wife was re-baptized after their marriage, and hear about Zinnia’s experiences with hands-on energy healing in the modern day. Please join us for another fun blast to the past learning more forgotten history about the Christadelphians!
Listener discretion advised.
If you’re interested in coming on the podcast or have comments or questions, you can contact Zinnia at lifeafterleavingpodcast@gmail.com
References:
The Early History of the Kingdom of God in Britain" by William Norrie
Part one
Pg. 128 “The Edinburgh Church of Baptised Believers of the Gospel of the Kingdom of God”
Pg 167 Sassy Rebuttals
Pg 178 Edinburgh Church
Page 202 Curative Mesmerism
Pg 245 On Jane Norrie’s rebaptism
The Life after Leaving Podcast Episodes:
S1 Ep 8 Robert Roberts and the Fandom of John Thomas
S1 Ep 10. The Bearded Wisdom of the Christadelphians
S1 Ep. 13 Hypnosis, Telepathy, and Ghosts
S1. Ep 4 Fellowship with Rob
S2. Ep 16. Fellowship with Steve
S3. Ep 32 Fellowship with Ben
‘John Thomas: His Friends and His Faith’ by Peter Hemingray
P 131-132 Declaration of Beliefs in 1847
P 127-129 John Thomas’ Rebaptism
P 192-194 The Marturion Magazine
My Days and My Ways by Robert Roberts
Mesmerism story pages 78-79
“Dr. John Thomas: His Life and Work” by Robert Roberts
Mesmer (1994)
Alan Rickman
The Brief and Strange History of Mesmerism and Surgery
The phony health craze that inspired hypnotism (Youtube)
The Mesmerist by Wendy Moore
Drake-Kendrick Lamar Feud
Referenced by William Norrie: “Messenger of the Churches” issued in July 1858 No. 2
Herald of the Kingdom and Age to Come by John Thomas, May 1858
The Zoist: A Journal of Cerebral Physiology & Mesmerism and Their Applications to Human Welfare Volume 12 Christadelphians named as members of the Scottish Curative Mesmeric Association
Reiki
Prana
Qi
The Astrological Roots of Mesmerism
Mesmerising Science: The Franklin Commission and the Modern Clinical Trial
Royal Commission on Animal Magnetism
Mesmerism (History of Hypnosis Documentary Series - Episode 02)
The History of Bad Ideas: Mesmerism (Podcast)
Sunday Nov 30, 2025
Sunday Nov 30, 2025
Today we’re chatting with Rebecca! In this episode, we hear from a former Christadelphian who had no intention of leaving the community until the day she walked out the door. Rebecca shares how she was raised in a small ecclesia in a rural area with the expectation that she would get baptized, become a wife and mother, and play piano for the Sunday memorial services. Despite asking a lot of questions during her childhood, she generally conformed to the traditional Christadelphian path for a woman, married a Christadelphian “brother”, and even raised her children to be Christadelphians. But as her children reached adolescence and began to grow into their identities, she was faced with a choice between accepting her children or allowing them to be harmed by the community she loved and served. Unlike most of our guests, Rebecca hadn’t been preparing to leave mentally or emotionally. But motivated by her love for her family, she navigated the unexpected turbulence of leaving the Christadelphian community and shares both the positives and negatives of life outside the group. We also talk about the guilt of recognizing the harms of authoritarian parenting, raising sensitive children in an environment focused on doomsday theology, and about deconstructing Christadelphian views on the LGBTQ community.
Listener discretion advised.
If you’re interested in coming on the podcast or have comments or questions, you can contact Zinnia at lifeafterleavingpodcast@gmail.com
References:
Shippensburg/ Mid-Atlantic Christadelphian Bible School
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone- Mailbox Scene (Youtube)
Sunday Nov 23, 2025
Sunday Nov 23, 2025
Today we’re chatting with Kate! In this episode, Kate begins by discussing her childhood in religious education where she grew up attending a Seventh Day Adventist School before later commuting over an hour to a Christadelphian Heritage College in Australia. We also discuss her family’s religious split over a relatives’ divorce and about the high expectations for “appropriate dress” for a “sister in Christ”- even outside the meeting. We discuss questions like, how much hair does a head covering need to cover in order to be an acceptable head covering? Do hoodies count as a head covering? And how can we style floor length denim skirts without a head covering or hat now that we’ve left?? We also chat about religious opinions on the Harry Potter series, the perils of Christadelphian relationships, and the name of a touch rugby team that was right on the [bottle]nose- the “Crystal Dolphins”!
Listener discretion advised.
If you’re interested in coming on the podcast or have comments or questions, you can contact Zinnia at lifeafterleavingpodcast@gmail.com
References:
Seventh Day Adventists
Life After Leaving Podcast, Episode 21
(The Millerites split and many became Seventh Day Adventists while a small number became Christadelphians)
Christadelphian Heritage Colleges
Charlie Chaplin
“We Don’t Talk About Bruno” from Encanto
The Christian Dolphin’s website is no longer available to view
The Religious Trauma Collective
God to Gay podcast
Sunday Nov 09, 2025
Sunday Nov 09, 2025
Today we’re chatting with Ben! In this episode, we explore how Ben went from a youth role model as the son of a renowned conservative Christadelphian preacher to pushing the limits of even the most liberal Christadelphians before leaving. Raised in a conservative branch of Christadelphia, Ben was told that some of their family had “left the faith” but was surprised to discover that there were actually just attending other, less conservative, Christadelphian ecclesias nearby! Even at Ben’s baptism, which surprisingly morphed into a roast, Ben defied convention by asking a member of the “Shield” group to baptism them at a “Logos” hall as Ben began to resist the labels and expectations they had been raised with. Throughout the episode, Ben and I also discuss Christadelphian music. From singing our favorite songs from “Fruit of Our Lips” to discussing what instruments and songs were allowed to be played to learning about their incredibly popular music nights at SCYP, we dive into what was a pivotal moment in Christadelphian music as Ben and their contemporaries created new music that pushed the limits and was even met with walk-outs and bullying. As a singer-songwriter, Ben left a lasting legacy on Christadelphian music as their songs continue to be popular in the present day. However, most Christadelphians probably don’t know that one of their favorite songs was written by a gay man and a non-binary person who both left the faith! We also talk about puppet plays, the Portland frog, and their experience helping create a LGBTQ affirming evangelical church in New York City.
Listener discretion advised.
If you’re interested in coming on the podcast or have comments or questions, you can contact Zinnia at lifeafterleavingpodcast@gmail.com
Resources and References:
Left handedness and sexual orientation
Fruit of our Lips CD (2002)
El Shaddai (Youtube)
As the Deer (unable to find CD Version)
A New Commandment (Youtube)
Shout
Living Moving Being
Wonder
Every day
Songs in a strange land
Endless
Sydney Christadelphian Young People
Flamy Grant
Bible Belt Baby (Spotify)
Drag Queen Album Tops Christian Music Charts
Hymnary.org
School of Rock
Christadelphian Art Trust
Yahweh's Youth from Living Moving Being (Youtube)
Purple Worship Book
Worship Books Audio
With All My Heart by Ben Grace, Worship Vol 1 Track 88
Rob Bell and the Mars Hill Church
Velvet Elvis by Rob Bell
Blue Like Jazz by Donald Miller
David Crowder
Hurricane/ Superstorm Sandy
The Liturgists Podcast
Secular Humanism
What is Christian Nationalism
The Danger of Christian Nationalism
Christian Nationalism is neither Christian nor Patriotic
Experts Discuss Christian Nationalism
The Portland Frog :
ICE Protest Frogs Have a Long History
Frogs For Peace: How the Portland Frog Became a Symbol of Resistance and Hope
It’s a Wonderful Life Movie (1946)
It’s a Wonderful Life and World War II
Sean Feucht
Jane Goodall's Final Message to the World
Audrey Hepburn: “To plant a garden is to believe in tomorrow”
Heathen Happy Hour Podcast
Story and Tune
Purity Culture Trauma
Purity Culture Support
“Wild Geese” by Mary Oliver
Learning to Walk in the Dark by Barbara Brown Taylor
Ben Grace Music
Ben Grace Music (IG)
As if Words Could Heal the Wounds
Ex Mormon Bookclub Podcast
Ben Grace: Naked and Unashamed Podcast Episode
As if Words Could Heal the Wounds Podcast
Sunday Nov 02, 2025
Sunday Nov 02, 2025
Today we’re chatting with Steve about one of his favorite topics, Biblical Studies! In this episode, we learn about the Bible from a former Christadelphian brother who left behind Christadelphian dogma for an open-minded scholarly approach to the Bible. In this episode, Dr. Steve reframes and explores many topics that we thought we knew about to see how context, translation, and history play a part in truly understanding the Bible. We learn that the Dead Sea Scrolls do *not* prove that the Bible hasn’t changed (like some of us were told), that the Bible underwent editing, redaction, and other changes throughout history (rather than being the perfect, unchangeable word of God), and that numerous passages in the Bible actually quote texts that are not found in the KJV Bible we read at all (and we never noticed?!) Steve’s expertise also brings about interesting discussion about the evolution of the doctrine of resurrection, the idea of atonement, whether God forbids homosexuality in Leviticus, and whether “Paul” actually wrote that women should be silent in the ecclesia. We also had fun exploring “sex, drugs, and rock n’ roll” in the Bible, reading “Solomon’s top ten pick-up lines”, and listening to Steve’s memory of a satirical prayer given at a Christadelphian ecclesia. Be warned, you’ll need to leave your Strongs Concordance at home for this episode, otherwise you’ll fail this class!
Listener discretion advised.
If you’re interested in coming on the podcast or have comments or questions, you can contact Zinnia at lifeafterleavingpodcast@gmail.com
Resources and References:
Reading the Bible Again For the First Time by Marcus Borg
Grimms’ Fairy Tales
The Documentary Hypothesis
Who wrote the Bible? By Richard Elliot Friedman
Redaction Criticism
National Treasure
Pseudopigrapha
Catholic Bible
Orthodox Bible
Coptic Bible
Ethiopic Bible
Testament of Moses
Testament of the 12 patriarchs
The Wisdom of Solomon
Solomon's Top Ten Pick-Up Lines
3 books of Isaiah
Wisdom of Sirach/ Ben Sira
The Birmingham Amended Statement of Faith
Hapax legomenon (a word that occurs in only one place)
Apocryphon of Jannes and Jambres
Testament of Job
Strong’s concordance
The Book of Judith
Judith beheading Holofernes (Caravaggio)
Judith Slaying Holofernes (Artemisia Gentileschi)
The Talmud
Cult Bride: How I was Brainwashed- and How I Broke Free by Liz Cameron
Book of Enoch
Instagram video on pseudepigrapha
The Ancient Greeks and Quotation Marks
The Bible: Leviticus 18:22 & 20:13, James 5:11, Ezekiel 18:20, 2 Tim 3:16, Song of Solomon 1:9, Isaiah 26:19, Daniel 12:2, 1 Timothy 2:11-12, 1 Corinthians 11:2-16
Sunday Oct 26, 2025
Sunday Oct 26, 2025
In today’s episode, Zinnia and Pete discuss six more historical examples of criminality among the Christadelphians that were not covered in our first true crime episode- from investigations into meat pies and hate speech, to missing charitable funds, and even murder! Let’s get into the spirit of spooky season as we discuss childhood medical neglect and speculate on why religious communities are so skeptical of modern medicine and vaccines, the passivity of believers who follow a “Jesus take the wheel” approach to their life, and about how the “punishment” for embezzlement looks a lot like a reward, or even condoning theft of charitable funds! We also look at how criminal investigations were handled during the early days of Christadelphia under Robert Roberts compared to the present day (hint: there were no secret meetings or letters). And we also have a few laughs as we learn about the Christadelphian view on sex toys, contrast modern medicine with biblical medicine, and discover (while recording!) that the thisisyourbible.com website was apparently hacked years ago and no one noticed!
Also, please don’t send me your opinions on vaccines. However, feel free to send me your favorite “biblical loopholes” or additional information relating to any of these stories to lifeafterleavingpodcast@gmail.com! Thanks in advance!
Listener discretion advised.
TW: Childhood Medical Neglect, Manslaughter Charges, Domestic Violence, Violent Murder
Resources and References:
Spooky Intro Music Inspired by The Addams Family Theme Song
Thank you to the ex-CD who snapped with me for this!
John Thomas, honorary mention:
The Life After Leaving Podcast: Episode 6 True Crime with Keturah
Anatomy: A Love Story by Dana Schwartz
The Life After Leaving Podcast: Episode 26 Liar, Liar
The Case of the Bad Meat:
“The History of the Christadelphians 1864-1885” by Andrew Wilson
The Christadelphian Magazine: November 1881, December 1881, and January 1882
The Christadelphian Ecclesial Guide by Robert Roberts (1883)
Mid-Atlantic Christadelphian Bible School History Skit Performance
Naegleria fowleri
Sweeney Todd
East Kilbride Scandal:
National Secular Society: NSS refers Christian charity to regulator for anti-vax memes
Daily Record in February 2022
Another Daily Record Article in February 2022
Daily Record in June 2022
East Kilbride Christadelphians Facebook
Medicine in the Bible
The Satanic Temple
Satanists Unveil Lucifer Statue Design for Oklahoma Capitol (2014)
One Christadelphian on the East Kilbride Christadelphians
Does the rainbow “belong only to God”? (IG)
Can Christadelphians Use Sex Toys?
Charity or Hate Group?
2019 Article investigating hate group claims/ This Is Your Bible
NSS Dossier on Christadelphian Charities
ThisIsYourBible.com on Human Rights
United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Cambridge University: Autistic Individuals More Likely to be LGBTQ+
Cambridge University: Autistic Individuals have increased risk of Physical Health Conditions
Autism Unemployment Rate
TIME Magazine: Asperger’s Syndrome, the Nazi Regime, and the Dangerous Power of Labeling People
Autism and Disability in Nazi Vienna
Describing neurotypicals like they describe autistic people (FB)
“Neurotypical Spectrum Disorder” (Reddit)
Anti-Defamation League Definition of a Hate Group
Christadelphian Care Homes Report
This is Your Bible Website shares bizarre (broken?) link under “Human Rights”
Wayback Machine: The Christadelphian Daily Journal on Human Rights
“[1] In passing, we remark that God has not given anyone demandable rights of any sort.”
Report of Charity Commissions Investigation and Compliance Case Work: 2012-2013
The Paradox of Tolerance
Michael Ashton Embezzlement:
Birmingham Christian charity faces probe over alleged disappearance of hundreds of thousands of pounds Feb 2012
Christadelphian Research Web Archive June 2015
The Christadelphian Magazine, January 2012, April 2016, July 2022
Ex-Christadelphians.com Michael Ashton Books
Ex-Christadelphians.com Forgiving Your Brother
Ecclesial Guide by Robert Roberts
The Danger of Cults by Michael Ashton
Medical Neglect and Death of a Child:
“Girl Dies on Water Diet” November 1975
The Lancet ‘A Case of Imperforate Anus’ by John Thomas
Joe Dispenza, chiropractor
2023 study of the Followers of Christ church
The Guardian article on Religious Medical Neglect
1998 Study on Medical Neglect Deaths
2011 Study on Faith Healing Deaths
Dr. Alec Burton- HealthScience.org
Fasting For Health and Recovery (Video) by Alec Burton
Alec Burton Obituary
Thank you God- Tim Minchin (Youtube)
Brother Brian Murder, Murder Plots, and Attempted Prison Escape:
BBC News Jealous Man Gets Life For Murder
BBC News: Isle of Wight Prison Helicopter Escape Foiled
HeraldNet UK murderers outlandish jail escape plot foiled
Helicopter Prison Escapes
Murderers Isle of Wight Escape Plot Foiled
BBC News Isle of Wight Prison Security Lapse Let Drugs In
The Guardian ‘Blindsided wife of Long Island serial killer suspect files for divorce’
The Telegraph ‘Teacher So Jealous He Tried to Kill All His Rivals’
The Telegraph ‘Jealous ex-teacher convicted of murder’
Berkshire Live ‘Obsessed Teacher Guilty of Murder’
BBC News ‘Jealous ex killed lover’s friend’
The Guardian ‘Murderer’s Isle of Wight escape plot foiled’
BBC News ‘Isle of Wight Prison Helicopter Escape Foiled’
Herald Net ‘Murderer’s Outlandish Prison Escape Plot Foiled’
Isle of Wight prison security lapse ‘let drugs in’
Sunday Oct 19, 2025
Sunday Oct 19, 2025
Today we’re chatting with Tim! In today’s episode, we hear from a survivor of the movement of a small group of Christadelphians who traveled to Israel because of an article in a Christadelphian magazine in order to meet Jesus, who they believed had returned but was living “in cognito” as an Israeli politician. Tim tells us about when his family prayed to a literal burning bush they believed was a sign from God, about his sister becoming a shepherdess in the Promised Land, and about the repeated abuse, attempted murders, and other traumatic experiences that marked his childhood in Israel. This episode is a doozy… we discuss “bullets for Jesus”, severe PTSD, and the difficulty Tim experienced trying to escape the nightmare that his family's beliefs in Christadelphian doctrines had led him and his siblings into…
Listener Discretion Advised.
TW: Emotional, Physical, Psychological and Sexual Child Abuse, Kidnapping, Physical Assault, Murder-Suicide Attempts, Gun Violence, PTSD
If you’re interested in coming on the podcast or have comments or questions, you can contact Zinnia at lifeafterleavingpodcast@gmail.com
Resources and References:
“Who is this…?” by Charles J. Hall of Boise, Idaho in Testimony Magazine. Email lifeafterleavingpodcast@gmail.com to request a PDF
Lod Airport Massacre
The Branch Davidians at Waco and David Koresh
The Jonestown Massacre and Jim Jones
Moshe Dayan
Sylvia Plath
"A Child Called 'It' " by David Pelzer
The Ecclesial Guide (1883)
Branhamites
Poseidon Adventure (1972 Movie)
"High Demand Group Recovery Group." Hosted by Mary Moore via Zoom. Email lifeafterleavingpodcast@gmail.com for Mary’s email address.
Sunday Oct 12, 2025
Sunday Oct 12, 2025
Today we’re chatting with Peter! In this episode, we hear from a former brother about the difficulties of growing up in a family perpetually changing ecclesias, of struggling to build friendships within the Christadelphian community, and of trying to meet the complicated standards for public prayers and bible readings. Peter shares how he had felt so mentally immobilized by fear that he had never questioned any of the doctrines until he met a Christadelphian who did, setting Peter on a path of asking questions, fact checking Christadelphian teachings, and eventually realizing that some Christadelphians share incorrect information (sometimes knowingly!) Peter also speaks up against the harmful views he was taught about “marital rights”, the intense schedule of attendance that was expected of Christadelphians every week in England, and of his struggles to create his own identity, beliefs, and community as an ex-Christadelphian adult.
Listener discretion advised.
If you’re interested in coming on the podcast or have comments or questions, you can contact Zinnia at lifeafterleavingpodcast@gmail.com
Resources and References:
Wiki mentioning Central Name Change based on location
“Birmingham Temperance Hall ecclesia (so known after the location of their rented rooms)... In 1952 the majority of the Berean Christadelphian Fellowship rejoined the "Birmingham Central" body of Christadelphians ("Temperance Hall" was now known as the "Central Fellowship", since Birmingham Central had ceased renting rooms at Temperance Hall in 1932”
Thou, Thee, and Archaic Grammar
Thou Grammer Wikipedia
Who wrote the Bible by Richard Elliot Friedman
Genie the feral child article
Israeli Gas Find (Testimony Magazine Archive)
Mount Tabor and the Jezreel Valley
Daily Mail- Pope sacks astronomer over evolution debate
Update: Christian Century: Vatican astronomer’s backing of evolution no factor in his exit
Cosmic Skeptic with Alex O’Connor on Youtube
Holy Koolaid on Youtube
Good Omens (TV Show)
Chimp Paradox: How Our Impulses and Emotions Can Determine Success and Happiness and How We Can Control Them by Steve Peters
Complex PTSD books
Your logical fallacy is website
Your bias is website
Sunday Sep 28, 2025
Sunday Sep 28, 2025
Today we’re chatting with Sarah! In this episode, Sarah answers all of my questions about the subgroup of Christadelphians called the “Bereans”, shares her experience of growing up in a small ecclesia as a victim of child m*lestation by Christadelphian brothers, and the story of how the Berean Christadelphian community discovered and responded to the abuse (Surprise! NOT WELL!) We also learn about Sarah’s second baptism, the revelations that shocked her as she learned more about the outside world, and discuss the harmful consequences of some of the Berean-specific Christadelphian beliefs for victims of child abuse. Sarah also shares the positives in her life now that she left the Christadelphian community, the lessons she’s learned about trying to heal, and about the joy and freedom she has in her adult life.
Listener discretion advised.
TW: child sexual abuse, pedophilia, depression, attempted suicide
If you’re interested in coming on the podcast or have comments or questions, you can contact Zinnia at lifeafterleavingpodcast@gmail.com
Resources and References:
Wikipedia on Berean Christadelphians
Berean Christadelphian Website
Church law and tax website: “Minimizing the Risks of Child Molestation in Churches”
American Mandatory Reporting Laws
“KidFlix” platform busted news article
Wrested Scriptures by Ron Abel (Book- PDF Link)
Accidental Saints by Nadia Bolz-Weber (Book)
Tattoos on the Heart: The Power of Boundless Compassion by Gregory Boyle
Searching for Sunday by Rachel Held Evans
The Gnostic Gospels by Elaine Pagels
Jim Palmer Substack “Deconstructionology”
The End of Faith by Sam Harris
Supernatural: What the Bible Teaches About the Unseen World and Why it Matters by Dr. Michael Heiser
On The Origin of Time by Stephen Hawking
Donald Hoffman (Author)
Conscious: A Brief Guide to the Fundamental Mystery of the Mind by Annaka Harris
Frederico Faggin on Consciousness
Dr. Tara Swart
Dr. Gabor Mate
Dawn Smith: TedX “Why I Left an Evangelical Cult”